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la idea de la fap era enviar 2 lotes a modernizar, pero se dieron cuenta que habian varios mig-29 que no habia mucho que hacerles y los dieron de baja, asi que de los 8 al principio pasaron a 12 a smp(p por peru, eso esta claro) los demas no recuerdo si son 4 o 6 los dejaran como estan y solo los dejaran a punto, osea solo los repararan, osea epara entrenamiento y combate cercano.
sobre los mirage 2000, solo interdiccion, no hay plata para mas.
MIG 29 SMPSMP......the best.
enchuladitos po!
SEGUN JANESAccording to Jane's Defense Weekly,
the first phase will upgrade 8 aircraft, which will be improved communications systems and electronic countermeasures, a new BREO, multi-color display and controls standard HOTAS. The program will be upgraded to version 13SM optoelectronic sighting system OEPS-29, which provides high precision aiming at all altitudes, by day and by night, when available, as well as measuring the distance to the aircraft or ground targets in the shooting of guns. . Airborne radar N-019 aircraft will be enhanced with the use of technologies derived from the creation BRLS "Zhuk-ME". These changes will allow greater range of controlled weapons systems, including SD H-29T/TE (AS-14) and X-31A / P (AS-17) air-to-surface missiles. Maintenance and the extension of the fuselage will increase the life of the MiG-29 on the 4000 flight hours and will allow them to remain in service
for 20 years.
SEGUN RIA NOVOSTIMoscow, August 13, RIA Novosti. 8 Peruvian Air Force MiG-29S/UB ('Fulcrum-C/B') fighter aircraft are to be upgraded by Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG in a deal announced on 12 August. Renamed MiG-29SMP (P for Peruvian), the fighters will receive improvements from the MiG-29SMT upgrade package, including new avionics, communications and electronic countermeasures systems, multifunction colour displays in the cockpit and HOTAS (hands-on throttle and stick) controls.
- two UB two-seaters and six single seaters will be upgraded, the rest of the fleet will be overhauled and returned to active service
- the SMP standard is a bit inferior to SMT, instead of Zhuk-M a new heavily upgraded digital version of the N019 radar will be installed in order to skip the otherwise required structural modifications to the front of the fuselage
- the center of the fuselage will not be modified for larger fuel tanks of the MiG-29SMT version, original engines will be kept, as well.
- the aircraft will get SMT avionics, new RWR and advanced jammer, the present IRST will be replaced by upgraded version for enhanced passive detection and tracking as well as better off-boresight launch capabilities
- digital cockpit with man-machine interface, LCDs and HOTAS from SMT version will be installed
- the entire upgrade will be carried out by Peruvian Air Force's SEMAN (Servicio de Mantenimiento) facility, only the RD-33 engines will be refurbished in Russia
El único radar N019 que tiene componentes de ZHUK-ME es el N019M1.
N019M1 This
latest radar upgrade proposal from Phazotron retains the antenna and transmitter block assemblies but replaces pretty much all the rest of the radar. It introduces new fully programmable digital processing,ESTA ES LA VERSIÓN QUE CONTIENE UNA MODIFICACIÓN EXTENSIVA EN BASE AL ZHUK-ME) giving 30-50% greater range in air-to-air search and track. Greatly improved true Track-while-scan mode, with the ability to continue volume search for new targets while tracking 10. 4 targets can engaged at once with R-77 missiles. 4 different close combat modes are available. Has raid assessment mode, and target class recognition. Air to surface modes include Real beam, DBS, SAR (5x5m), and moving target detection. Can handoff target data to the Kh-31A/Kh-35A anti-shipping missiles. Allows target handoff to TV guided weapons. Collision alarm system.
It is being touted as a low cost upgrade for existing MiG-29 operators. 
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este otro es anterior al N019M1:
http://www.hostultra.com/~migalley/mig29_variants.htmlhttp://www.hostultra.com/~migalley/n019_radar.html[/quote]
N019MP is a further modified radar proposed by Phazotron for the MiG-29SMT program. It used a Baguet series processor. The maximum range remained the about the same, but the radar could detect 20 targets simultaneously, track four, and engage two. The radar had also basic air-to-ground functions, like ground mapping mode, acquisition and engagement of sea targets with radar homing missiles, and ground targets with unguided weaponry under any weather conditions, day and night. The NO19MP could generate maps of 15x15, 24x24, 50x50 or 77x77km with a resolution of 15m. Radar imagery could be transmitted via datalink to GCI centres or A-50 AWACS aircraft. Targets visible on the radar map could be designated by the pilot(using a joystick) or ground controller, and used to cue TV-guided missile seekers, whose higher resolution imagery can then be displayed or transmitted to the GCI or A-50 controller as well. Performance against slow flying helicopters was improved as well as resistance to jamming. Uses Doppler beam sharpening techniques. Now superceded by N019M1.
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esto comprende el SM:EL UPGRADE SM es inferior al SMP pues además de no incorporar toda la aviónica y modernizaciones del SMT, lleva el radar N019- ME TOPAZComo pueden ver nuestros migs si son SMT pero no al 100% porque la FAP no ha pedido el tanque conformal de extra fuel que aumenta su peso y le quita capacidad A2AEstas son las especificaciones del SM:
Como se pueden dar cuenta utiliza el radar N019ME...aquà su explicación:
N019ME Topaz Export version of Topaz, slightly downgraded. All Indian MiG-29s have been upgraded to this standard.Pues yo no lo llamarÃa ni SM ni SMT, simplemente SMP. Es un nuevo modelo de upgrade, tal y como los propios Rusos lo presentaron en LAAD 2009.
Un par de fuentes adicionales a las ya posetadas antes:http://www.defensa.pe/showthread.php?t=1812&page=625A note aside: the aircraft won't be upgraded exactly to -SMT standards, hence the designation "-SMP" (custom version for Peru). A new, heavily modified
and upgraded digital version of the N019 radar will be used instead of the standard N010 Zhuk-M that is used on the -SMT (with a smaller planar array
antenna so that it can fit inside the radome of the actual MiG29S without undergoing structural modifications to the front fuselage) and the planes won't
undergo the heavy modifications to the middle fuselage and wings required for the larger fuel tanks the MiG29SMT has, which would also require newer
engines. Leaving that aside, the upgrade in avionics, sensors and pilot-aircraft interface will be "SMT-like", with improved IRST capabilities for enhanced
passive detection and tracking as well as better off-boresight launch capabilities, MFCDs and HOTAS, new jammers and RWR (in fact, some of the
components that will be used are so new the Russians don't even have names or designations for them ). In the end we shall have an aircraft that is
almost as good as the -SMT but with a significant reduction in costs. The entire modernisation programme will be carried out by Peruvian Air Force's
SEMAN personnel and facilities while the engines will be shipped to Russia for overhauling and refurbishment...
http://red-stars.org/spip.php?breve120317 août 2008 -
Modernisation des Mig-29 péruviens au standard SMPLe groupe aéronautique russe RSK Mig a remporté un contrat pour moderniser 8 Mig-29 péruviens à un
standard "SMP" dérivé du Mig-29SMT russe
incluant notamment une nouvelle avionique, de nouveaux systèmes de communications et de contre mesures électroniques. Les radars N019 Topaz des Mig-29 péruviens seront aussi modernisés avec des éléments du Zukh-ME du Mig-29SMT permettant l’emport et le tir de nouveaux armements guidés comme les missiles Kh-29L/TE et Kh-31A/P. L’optronique secteur frontal sera également modernisée tandis que la durée de vie des cellules sera prolongée pour les 20 prochaines années.
Pour mémoire, le Pérou avait acquis d’occasion 16 Mig-29S monoplaces et 2 Mig-29UB biplaces auprès de la Biélorussie en 1996 (deux ont été perdus lors d’accidents depuis) ainsi que 3 Mig-29S neufs en Russie en 1998. Seuls 3 des 19 Mig-29 péruviens en parc seraient actuellement opérationnels.
Ceux qui ne seront pas modernisés au standard SMP seront révisés et remis en vol dans l’attente d’un éventuel nouveau contrat pour leur modernisation.podemos decir entonces que el cockpit de nuestros Mig será muy similiar sino igual a este:
Dominan el panel dos LCD MFD de (152 × 203 mm) MFI-68 color, junto a los paneles de control multifunción se han incorporado además tres LCD monocromáticas más pequeñas (96 × 77 mm) en las consolas laterales. Cuenta con un mapa móvil Digital (y posiblemente una base de datos de elevación tipo Terprom y un display) y un remozado HUD.en este video podemos ver la cabina del SMT:
Con respecto a la aerodinámica y radares
Sobre el tema de la relación peso/potencia del Mig 29 vs el f16 C y el A/B esta es la tabla correcta. El SMP no incrementa peso, al contrario lo reduce, mira nomás la diferencia entre los pesos de los radares y sobre los RD33 no solo es overhaul sino también refurbishment.
el empuje del RD 33 consignado es por un solo motor.Es decir, primero está Mig y después el C y el A/B.




pd: Los datos son del SE. El SMP mejora todas esas variables al tener menos peso y mas potencia.

el Gráfico de la relación peso/potencia anterior, como este, son de Yefim Gordon

este es otro cuadro comparativo clarificador de Gordon..

y con respecto a los radares..chequea esto
Which Fighter Plane is the No:1 in the Indian Subcontinent in the BVR(Beyond Visual Range) arena?
Official Specs says Zhuk-ME on board Mig-29K & Mig-29SMT upgrade has a detection range of 120km for a 5m2 target. Hence:
For 20m2, Zhuk-ME detection range is 170km
For 15m2, Zhuk-ME detection range is 158km
For 12.5m2, Zhuk-ME detection range is 151km
For 10m2, Zhuk-ME detection range is 143km
For 8.5m2, Zhuk-ME detection range is 137km
For 3m2, Zhuk-ME detection range is 106km
For 1m2, Zhuk-ME detection range is 80km
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Official Specs says N-011M BARS onboard Su-30MKI has a detection range of 140km for a standard Russian RCS, in this case 5m2. Indian fan boys claim that some N-011m BARS radars variants have a high power output of 7kw(the original one has only 4-5kw), and hence a higher range than the 140km given above. The precise range for this version is not known. Whether this radar is inservice with the Indian Air force is also not known. And even if it is with the IAF, how many 7kw N-011M BARS radar equipped Su-30MKI there are is impossible to determine. Hence under these circumstances, only an official brochure can be taken into account. Official brochure, says ZHUK-MSFE with a 8kw power output, has a range of 180km for a 5m2 target. ZHUK-MSFE is the latest Russian radar, while BARS is several years older. Also BARS output is lesser than Zhuk-MSFE. Hence it's safe to assume 4-5kw BARS variant's(or even the 7kw range) range isn't going to be higher than ZHUK-MSFE.
140km detection range for 5m2 target. Hence:
For 8.5m2, BARS detection range is 160km
For 3m2, BARS detection range is 123km
For 1.5m2, BARS detection range is 104km
For 1m2, BARS detection range is 94km
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Official Specs says KLJ-7 onboard JF-17 has a detection range of 105km for a 5m2 target. However, PAF isn't too fond of his radar eventhough it has the same range as a APG-68(V)9 on F-16block52 & RDY-2 on Mirage-2000-5/-9(both radars according to official specs), & less range than RC-400 radar. Even in its most powerful form(meaning the version with the largest antennae, which the JF-17 cannot house due to its relatively small nose), the RC400 has 20% less range than the RDY radar. RC-400 is the radar which the PAF are planning to equip their second block of JF-17. Why they are dumping a better radar(according to official specs) and going for a lesser ranged one is fueling speculation that KLJ-7's true specs is lower than publicized. In any case, lets see what its ranges are:
105km detection range for 5m2 Target. Hence:
For 20m2, KLJ-7 & APG-68(V)9 detection range is 149km
For 15m2, KLJ-7 & APG-68(V)9 detection range is 138km
For 12.5m2, KLJ-7 & APG-68(V)9 detection range is 132km
For 10m2, KLJ-7 & APG-68(V)9 detection range is 125km
For 8.5m2, KLJ-7 & APG-68(V)9 detection range is 120km
For 3m2, KLJ-7 & APG-68(V)9 detection range is 92km
For 1m2, KLJ-7 & APG-68(V)9 detection range is 70km
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RCS figures are confidential. However unofficially there are some figures available on the internet. They are:
Clean(meaning payload/ammunition not loaded) F-16 after Block 30, which includes block 52 - 1.2m2
Clean Mig-29B & Mig-29SMT - 5m2
Clean Su-30MKI - 10m2 to 15m2
JF-17 without RAM, its RCS would be more than a Clean F-16 block 52 which has RAM & is planform. F-16 block25 & the previous variants, which are planform in construction but without RAM, were said to have an RCS of 3m2-5m2, when clean. JF-17's TWR isn't very high, and adding RAM would mean increasing the weight. So we can expect little or no RAM on JF-17. Also, JF-17 isn't very planform in construction but has DSI and is a smaller aircraft. So lets consider a favorable assumption that the RCS of a clean JF-17 is as low as 2.5m2.
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article6.html
Su-30MKI's RCS when carrying full 8000kgs AG load is said to be 20m2.
http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... er/381718/
Lets take Su-30MKI's clean RCS as 11.5m2, higher than a standard Su-27, due to canards & the extra seat.
Mig-29K's RCS is officially confirmed to be 4-5 times less than a old Mig-29, due to composites & RAM. So taking an average value between 4 & 5 = 4.5. When the unofficial RCS of 5 is divided by 4.5 we get an RCS of 1.11.
"Considerable increase of flight range is also gained due to increased capacity of drop fuel tanks and in-flight refueling capability (with the possibility to refuel from the aircraft of the same type). Due to special coatings Mig-29K radar reflecting surface is 4-5 times smaller than of basic MiG-29."
http://www.migavia.ru/eng/news/?id=18&tid=4&page=1
JF-17 cannot carry larger payloads. Its load carrying capacity is only 7900lbs or less than 3600kgs. This compared to Su-30MKIs 8000kgs, Mig-29k's 5500kgs, & F-16's 7500kgs.
Empty weight of the aircraft is 14520lbs for JF-17, 19700lbs for F-16 Block 52, 25573 for Mig-29SMT, 28550lbs for Mig-29K & 40565lbs for Su-30MKI.
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Eventhough Mig-29 can carry less load than a F-16 or Su-30, lets consider a uniform RCS increase for comparison purposes.
Take the RCS of a Air-Air loaded Mig-29SMT as 8.5m2, 3.5m2 more.
Take the RCS of a Air-Air loaded Mig-29K as 5m2, 3.9m2 more.
Take the RCS of a Air-Air loaded F-16 Block 52 as 5m2, 3.8m2 more.
Take the RCS of a Air-Air loaded JF-17 as 5m2, 2.5m2 more.
Take the RCS of a Air-Air loaded Su-30MKI as 15m2, 3.5m2 more.
With these RCS values and the above radar ranges, you can now see which fighters will be detecting their opponent fighters first... and first tracking which almost linearly follows detection.
Mig-29K will detect:
Su-30MKI at 158km
Mig-29SMT at 137km
F-16 Block 52 at 120km
JF-17 at 120km
F-16 Block 52 will detect:
Su-30MKI at 138km
Mig-29SMT at 120km
JF-17 at 105km
Mig-29K at 105km
Su-30MKI will detect:
Mig-29SMT at 160km
F-16 Block 52 at 140km
JF-17 at 140km
Mig-29K at 140km
Mig-29SMT will detect:
Su-30MKI at 158km
F-16 Block 52 at 120km
JF-17 at 120km
Mig-29K at 120km
JF-17 will detect:
Su-30MKI at 138km
Mig-29SMT at 120km
F-16 Block52 at 105km
Mig-29K at 105km
Mig-29K comes out as the clear winner. If provided with a long range BVR weapon which could match its powerful radar, Mig-29K navalised version will come out as the BVR winner.
Su-30MKI follows the Mig-29K Naval Fulcrum.
Mig-29SMT, F-16 Block-52 & JF-17 are tied at third.
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References:
Zhuk-ME (Mig-29 Upgrade & Mig-29K)
Can Track- 10 Targets
Can Simultaneously Engage - 4 Targets
Max Detection for 5 sqm RCS - 120 km
http://www.roe.ru/cataloque/air_craft/a ... 99-102.pdf
RC-400 (smaller radar based on RDY-2)
Can Track - 24 Targets
Can Simultaneously Engage - 4 Targets
Max Track for 5 sqm RCS - 70 km
APG-68 (V)9 (on F-16 Block 52)
Max Track for 5 sqm RCS - 80 km
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopi ... rt-30.html
APG-66(V)2 (on F-16 MLU)
Max Detection for 6 sqm RCS - 74 km
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/i ... pic=1819.0APG-68 V5(F-16 C/D): For RCS 0.

m2 class target: 3~4 km+
For RCS 0.001 m2 class target: 6~7 km+
For RCS 0.1 m2 class target: 18~22 km+
For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 32~40 km+ For RCS 5.0 m2 class target: 50~60 km+ For RCS 10.0 m2 class target: 60~72 km+
APG-68 V9(F-16 C/D/I:
For RCS 0.

m2 class target: 4~5 km+
For RCS 0.001 m2 class target: 8~9 km+
For RCS 0.1 m2 class target: 25~30 km+
For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 46~54 km+ For RCS 5.0 m2 class target: 66~80 km+ For RCS 10.0 m2 class target: 78~95 km+
Y tambien esta:# The frontal RCS of the fighters:
1. Su-30MK: 10.0~15.0 m2+
2. Su-35 with LO enhancement: 3.0 m2
3. MIG-29S: 5.0 m2
4. MIG-29SMT with LO enhancement: 1.0~1.2 m2
5. F-16 series: 1.0~1.2 m2
# The air-to-air detection capability of the fighter's radar:
1. AN/APG-68 V5 (F-16C/D): 75 ~ 85 km for RCS = 5 m2 target
2. AN/APG-68 V9 (F-16 I): 95 ~ 110 km for RCS = 5 m2 target
3. AN/APG-80 (F-16 E/F): 130 ~ 160 km for RCS = 5 m2 target
4. NO-11M (Su-30MKI): 200 ~ 250 km for RCS = 10 m2 target
5. ZHUK-ME (MIG-29SMT): 120 km for RCS = 3 m2 target
According to the formula:
a. The maximal detection range for F-16C/D (AN/APG-68V5) to other fighters in head to head engagement:
1. Su-30MK: 90 ~ 100 km+
2. Su-35 with LO enhancement: 65 ~ 75 km
3. MIG-29S: 75 ~ 85 km
4. F-16 and MIG-29SMT with LO enhancement: 50 ~ 60 km
b. The maximal detection range for F-16I (AN/APG-68V9) to other fighters in head to head engagement:
1. Su-30MK: 115 ~ 130 km+
2. Su-35 with LO enhancement: 85 ~ 100 km
3. MIG-29S: 95 ~ 110 km
4. F-16 and MIG-29SMT with LO enhancement: 65 ~ 80 km
c. The maximal detection range for F-16E/F (AN/APG-80) to other fighters in head to head engagement:
1. Su-30MK: 155 ~ 190 km+
2. Su-35 with LO enhancement: 115 ~ 140 km
3. MIG-29S: 130 ~ 160 km
4. F-16 and MIG-29SMT with LO enhancement: 85 ~ 115 km
d. The maximal detection range for Su-30MKI (NO-11M) to other fighters in head to head engagement:
1. Su-30MK: 200 ~ 250 km+
2. Su-35 with LO enhancement: 150 ~ 185 km
3. MIG-29S: 170 ~ 210 km
4. F-16 and MIG-29SMT with LO enhancement: 130 ~ 175 km
e. The maximal detection range for MIG-29SMT (ZHUK-ME) to other fighters in head to head engagement:
1. Su-30MK: 160 km+
2. Su-35 with LO enhancement: 120 km
3. MIG-29S: 135 km
4. F-16 and MIG-29SMT with LO enhancement: 90 ~ 95 km